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Pat O'Brien
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Subject: Need Magnesium Sand Cast Wheels
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My company is looking for a manufacturer for magnesium sand casting for 15- and 16-inch diameter automotive wheels. We need castings, heat treating, machining, and possibly a finish.
Does anyone have contacts for this type of casting company?
Pat O'Brien
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| 27-Sep-2005 22:28 |
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Cory Padfield
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Eck Industries should be able to do this. You can learn more about them at:
http://www.eckindustries.com/
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| 29-Sep-2005 18:55 |
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Sally Nordeen
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We can provide you with cast magnesium wheels.
Please provide us with additional information concerning the size requirements and quantity of wheels you are interested in.
Please contact me at sn@smw.com
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| 30-Sep-2005 15:05 |
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Dan Hickle
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We are a sand cast foundry that produces wheels for numerous industries including racing and aerospace. We would like to quote all the whells you have.
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| 16-Dec-2005 16:08 |
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Nigel Ricketts
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If you are keen to try an Australian foundry, Magnesium Technologies have been supplying sand cast magnesium alloy wheels for racing applications for many years:
http://www.magtec.com.au/
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| 21-Dec-2005 06:42 |
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ATIQ AHMAD
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>My company is looking for a manufacturer for magnesium
>sand casting for 15- and 16-inch diameter automotive
>wheels. We need castings, heat treating, machining, and
>possibly a finish.
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>Does anyone have contacts for this type of casting company?
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>Pat O'Brien
>President
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| 12-Mar-2006 08:30 |
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ATIQ AHMAD
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Pl.provide us specification and related information with annual requirement to enable us to submit in details.
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| 12-Mar-2006 08:32 |
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ATIQ AHMAD
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Pl.provide us specification and related information with annual requirement to enable us to submit in details.
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| 12-Mar-2006 08:33 |
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ATIQ AHMAD
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>My company is looking for a manufacturer for magnesium
>sand casting for 15- and 16-inch diameter automotive
>wheels. We need castings, heat treating, machining, and
>possibly a finish.
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>Does anyone have contacts for this type of casting company?
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>Pat O'Brien
>President
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| 12-Mar-2006 08:35 |
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Mike hennessey.mike
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Magnesium whels.
You could try Stone Foundries in the U.K or Speedline in italy
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| 03-Apr-2006 14:25 |
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Mike hennessey.mike
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Magnesium whels.
You could try Stone Foundries in the U.K or Speedline in italy
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| 03-Apr-2006 14:26 |
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Richard Leal
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We can make magnesium wheels. We have made some prototypes for a local OEM. The wheels are 18 inches in diameter. I plan to put a set of wheels on a 2006 Mustang GT as a marketing process.
I don't believe there is a need to go overseas for this technology.
How many wheels do you want? Size? Application?
Call me direct: 313 410 2306 or email me: rleal8@yahoo.com
Richard
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| 08-May-2006 03:34 |
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Richard Comeau
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We offer magnesium sand casts, gravity and low-pressure permanent molds. CNC Machining, CMM, Heat treatments and more. Magnesium wheels can be made from either one of these methods and with different alloys depending on the quantity, the design, and properties your are looking for.
We would be interested in looking at this project with you.
A lot of people can claim to cast magnesium wheels, not a lot of people can cast good magnesium wheels.
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| 01-Jun-2006 18:02 |
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Ilya Ostrovsky
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Could you claim that the cast wheel will be so good like forged from MA-14 (ZK60)?
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| 01-Jun-2006 18:30 |
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Richard Comeau
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The properties to be expected from a sand cast or a permanent mold combined with the heat treatment and/or aging, still will not compare to forging.
I suggest we have a conversation. We would like to find out just exactly you are looking for.
We will tell you quickly if we can help or not.
You time will be well invested.
Richard 819-691-0862
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| 01-Jun-2006 19:28 |
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Ilya Ostrovsky
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It was theoretical question. I am not customer for magnesium wheels. We supply pretreatment for mahnesium forging and then finishing systems for forged products (including wheels). The forging is provided our product division as well as by our partner company from Russia (by the way subsidiary of Magnesium.com).
Personaly, I saw and held in my hands a lot of magnesium wheels produced by different technologies in several countries. Unfortunately, I also heard a lot of stories about cracks in cast wheels and even some broken wheels. That is why I asked this question.
It is not funny when you drive with high speed and your wheel has been broken.
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| 02-Jun-2006 11:16 |
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Richard Comeau
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You are right. There is more to these projects than filling a cavity. I.E., X-ray levels, end use, SAE and/or FIA requirements, impregnation, leak tests, stress, load cycles, surface preparation and finish, etc...These projects require R&D.
We have a KURTZ 7.5 low pressure permanent mold process.
You can look at the specifications of the machine www.kurtz.de
This press delivers high integrity castings.
It is suitable for short production runs.
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| 02-Jun-2006 17:59 |
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Richard Leal
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Dear Richard,
We have been working with an OEM on their requirements for magnesium wheels. We have come the closest to meeting their requirements. You are right about the rigorious requirements. Casting wheels meet part of the OEM requirements, Forge wheels are better, our "spun" mg wheel with different hub designs attached are light- no porosity, and are closest to meeting OEM requirements.
Our patented alloy and patented process has the best results ever - confrimed by the US Oakridge Laboratories. We have spent over $2 million to get this far. We still need more funding to continue the R and D. If anyone is interested in working with us; I mean seriously interested only - serious enough to meet with us and consider investing around $50,000 - $75,000, call me: Richard 313 410 2306
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| 05-Jun-2006 05:55 |
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Ilya Ostrovsky
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Dear Mr. Leal,
Please, could you explain what do you mean about "spun"?
What is the kind of your new patented alloy? Is it wrought magnesium alloy? Is it new deformation technology?
That is not "theoretical question". My company (AMTS) deals a lot with wrought magnesium.
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| 06-Jun-2006 11:51 |
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Cory Padfield
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Ilya,
Wheel spinning, or flow forming, is a precision forming technology that elongates the rim. It is used by many manufacturers. Here is an Internet site for a manufacturer of flow forming equipment that provides a good introduction:
http://www.leifeldspinning.com/wheel.htm
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| 06-Jun-2006 16:47 |
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Ilya Ostrovsky
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Thank you for the information. Few years ago, we coated some spun magnesium pipe. So generally, I have some base knowledge about spinning. But I never hear that it's possible to make magnesium automotive wheels by spinning.
Going back to my question. Forged wheels are commercial reality.
Cast wheels are also reality, even they are not so good like forged ones.
On German web site you have picture of magnesium wheel produced from forged pre-form.
However, Russian make industrial magnesium wheels by one-step forging.
Both technologies need machining. Finishing is same.
What is advantage of spun magnesium wheels? Cost? Mechanical properties?
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| 06-Jun-2006 18:16 |
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Cory Padfield
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The rim of a wheel can be produced via machining (from either a cast or forged preform) or via flow forming. With flow forming, you do not produce swarf (chips), so you have a materials and cost savings. Also, you have a formed surface finish instead of a machined surface finish, and a formed vs. machined grain structure, which provides improved mechanical properties.
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| 06-Jun-2006 19:31 |
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Ilya Ostrovsky
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Thank you for the information.
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| 07-Jun-2006 17:02 |
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Richard Leal
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www.leifeldspinning.com/wheel.htm:
I visited this site. I have not had time to call them.
Our wheels are magnesium alloy wheels. I don't want to mislead you. The wheels have not yet passed the OEM testing. The gentleman who responded and provided the above website is correct. If you have the material, spinning is the best way to go.
Richard
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| 13-Jun-2006 02:31 |
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Ulrich Blaettler
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The most advanced way of forging and flow forming an alloy wheel is by the CCIF in combination with CCFF forming process. CCIF which stands for Computer Controlled Incremental Forming some also refer to it as rotary forging and CCFF stands for Computer Controlled Flow Forming or spinning.
If you want to learn more about this process have a look at the following website: www.intft.com
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| 18-Aug-2006 00:49 |
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James Jeffery
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Are there any other firms in the UK that can do this ?
I need a batch of around 100 wheels making in magnesuium.
I have an unused wheel from which the necessary moulds/plugs could be made.
I would need the wheels cast, machined and heat treated as necessary to enable them to be used on a classic/period rally car.
Thanks
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| 03-Jul-2010 18:43 |
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Pradeep Datar
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I can produce these Castings for you, Duely Heat-Treated, Machined & Finished to your requirements in a Ready-To-Use State. I have been manufacturing Castings by Sand, Permanent Mould, Centrifugal Methods for various applications as Defence, Aerospace, Missiles, Shock & Vibratoin Fixtures, OptoElectronics, etc. These Castings undergo rigority of Tests including X- Ray Analysis (maybe for your Inital Castings for Sign-Offs)
But I need to understand more from you regarding your Technical Requirements, Quantities you are looking forward to on monthly/ Annual Basis.
Please feel free to contact me on emgdatar@gmail.com
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